Comments on: Sour grapes: When it comes to poor Chinese wine, don’t shoot the wine maker

By: admin

admin — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:24:37 +0000

@ joe,

Agree, all these factors – marketing, availability, and associations with status – determine what consumers drink. Thus, for many consumers, they drive the market and taste is in the back seat.

Cheers, Jim

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By: joe

joe — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:06:30 +0000

i don’t think chinese drink wine just for health reason, but definitely not totally fot the taste. Many people drink for fashion and showing a “higher taste” then those who drink beer. Another factor causing this problem is most people will not go to a wine shop to get a bottle of wine but rather shop in the supermarkets or order wines in the restaurant where generic chinese wine dominates the options. Marketing is another important factor as the big heads put lots of resources on TV tv commercials and Ads to “educate” consumers who haven’t taste wine before and make them believe a wine should taste like that.

By: admin

admin — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:54:16 +0000

@ Dimitri,

Thanks for the info.

I know others, such as China Silk, are making wine in Xinjiang for export as well. There is a good deal of potential in this region.

Cheers, Jim

By: Marc

Marc — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:37:51 +0000

The wineries need to work closely with the farmers to teach them about quality over quantity…and of course, pay more for it. Take Grace Vineyards as the primary example. They produce a quality product, and yes you pay more for it. If poor quality wines are exported to America, it will be a laughing stock and won’t last long. But creating wines that consumers enjoy will make people sit back and say “wow, this Chinese wine is very good!” Unlike some other Chinese products, wine should pay close attention to the world market and not try to cut corners.

I have tasted the Suntime wines also. In the “everyday drinking wine” category, they have a good chance of doing well…but they absolutely MUST pay close attention to quality.

By: Perez Dimitri (CWS&BF)

Perez Dimitri (CWS&BF) — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:09:26 +0000

Dear Mr Boyce,

I really appreciate your synthetic analysis. It’s 100% correct.
We made such analysis about 5 years before and it leads us to choose to export SUNTIME (Xintian) wines from Xinjiang, now CITIC Guoan wine co, ltd to Europe instead of one of the big 3 brands.
SUNTIME never imported bulk wine from abroad and only relies on its vineyards (10’000 hectares). This is a guarantee for us to always have the same wine taste, palate and identity.
Wine maker (Mr Fred Nauleau) also tries to impose step by step to harvest as latest as possible and to reduce quantities when harvest, thus in order to improve grapes quality.
In consequence, and this has been recently published in other website, SUNTIME is nowadays the number 1 Chinese wine brand in Europe and clients such as “Le Carrousel du Louvre’s” restaurant selected SUNTIME as their wine offer in their Asian athmosphere restaurants…as many many others restaurants in France (more than 200 nowadays).

We strongly believe to export by end 2011, several millions SUNTIME wines bottles to Europe.

Thanks for your analysis again.

Best regards,