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Comment on Beyond bottles: China wine distributor ASC has logo knocked off by Willard Whyte

Willard Whyte — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 06:30:09 +0000

This is obviously bad news.

A quick comment on the official ASC Fine Wines logo: you’ve described it as “tropical.”

I would characterize it as early 1960s Polynesian Kitsch…think Trader Vics, Mai Tais, Grasshopper Cocktails, Crab Rangoon, Tiki, Pina Coladas direct from a hollowed-out coconut and pineapple pork!

Comment on Bull shifts: Modo in Beijing switches to all-Spain wine lineup by Italian wine in China

Italian wine in China — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:01:18 +0000

While in europe the market is dominated by French and Italian wines, Spanish wine seems to enjoy alot of success in china. Are spanish wines more suited to the tastes of chinese people, or is it all about smart marketing like the enomatic machines?

Comment on Double up: China Wine & Spirits acquires DT Asia by Opwine China

Opwine China — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:46:25 +0000

Another wine distributor merger… Will the wine market in china always be dominated by the largest multinational corporations? Is there opportunity for the small distributor?

Comment on Grace under pressure: Ningxia tops Bordeaux in Beijing wine challenge by nikk225

nikk225 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:59:35 +0000

1. anyone who deals with china , inside china, and works with MAINLAND china. should know how the game is played – Nuff said on that

2. china is making some surprisingly good wines. I have only received directly from winery so I say that with admiration. however I ONLY will buy in HKG or took or singapore. why? CAVEAT EMPTOR ring a bell?

3. Boyce, it’s interesting what you are doing, consider how to improve on it, some of the comments you have here, even the long ones offer good suggestions. I’ll be tracking your developments, keep it up bro. we know where china is headed, they deserve good home-grown & imported wines.

peace

Comment on Grace under pressure: Ningxia tops Bordeaux in Beijing wine challenge by George Wong, Wine MBA

George Wong, Wine MBA — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 07:06:09 +0000

My conclusion is that Wine is a commercial product. The customer ultimately decides what is perceived to be high quality. The winemaker can have a vision for what they wish to create and, providing they have the grapes and skill, can craft a wine of significance. The perception of the customer can be influenced when they tasted the wines, but they cannot be coerced to like the wines. Winemakers can set the trends or benchmarks, but in the long run the market decides what it wishes to buy and consume. It is what the wine makes them feel or sense that constitutes its worth and could be greatly influenced by the social and narrative dimensions of the wine experience.

Cheers
George Wong, Wine MBA
Oenologue & Consultant

Comment on The Wine Republic to distribute Jia Bei Lan in China by Kapitel 4: High Road to China « Tales of Hope and Glory – Wineblog by W.E.Frank

Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:41:50 +0000

[...] Dezember 2011 wird der Wein, dessen Gesamtproduktion ca. 13.000 Flaschen beträgt, jedoch zumindest in China vertrieben. Die preisliche Einordnung ist schwierig. Ältere Jahrgänge wurden für 220.- RMB (ca. 25.- Euro) [...]

Comment on Les vins Chinois meilleurs que Bordeaux? by Nicolas

Nicolas — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:05:51 +0000

@ Raton

“A prix egal, en Chine, oui. Pas tres interessant, et pas tres sensationnel, comme info!”

Tout a fait d’accord avec vous ! Pas tres interessant comme info pour un francais, mais, qui a créé le sensationnel?

Comment on Les vins Chinois meilleurs que Bordeaux? by Nicolas

Nicolas — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:55:20 +0000

Un grand merci pour tous vos messages d’encouragement recus. Je ne vous dénoncerais pas, promis! :-)

Comment on Les vins Chinois meilleurs que Bordeaux? by Nicolas

Nicolas — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:48:27 +0000

“…Que des français se fassent complices de cette manipulation me choque…”

Nous sommes sommeliers avant d’etre francais devant nos clients (chinois). Ca s’appelle le respect.
Quant a “la manipulation”, c’est votre probleme d’interprétation. Lisez les articles, pas juste les titres….

Comment on Les vins Chinois meilleurs que Bordeaux? by greg

greg — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:39:00 +0000

Il s’agit de propagande en faveur du vin chinois, car comparer ce qui se fait de mieux en Chine avec des vins de négoce (à moins de 10€ en supermarché) n’a aucun intérêt.
Aussi quel autre but que de dénigrer un des rares produits français qui se porte bien à l’exportation, notamment en Chine?
Que des français se fassent complices de cette manipulation me choque.
Car confondre ces quelques vins de consommation courante, avec des grands crus et même, allons y gaiement avec l’ensemble des vins de Bordeaux, c’est juste minable.
La Chine produit du vin de façon correcte, c’est à dire sans mélanger n’importe quoi pour le mettre dans une bouteille, depuis seulement 20 ans. Il leur faudra encore beaucoup de temps, sans qu’il n’y ait de catastrophe, pour arriver à s’approcher des grands crus français, et à fortiori des Bordeaux.
Prétendre le contraire est soit de l’ignorance, soit une incroyable prétention à transcender les lois de la nature ou encore de la simple malhonnêteté intellectuelle.